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comunication with a network
« on: November 22, 2009, 01:10:34 am »
My friend and I were talking and he was telling me about a program me made in school and it could shut any computer down on a network and send messages to eachother ect. and I was wondering if anyone could make that because he sadly lost his files and can't remember how to make it so, please? lol


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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2009, 07:36:33 am »
If they are running xp, then messages can be sent via 'net send computerName'.
Opening and shutting down can be accomplished in a similar manor. I know this is possible with a batch file since my class used it to terrorize the county. We were shutting down computers and opening CD drive remotely all the time. The principle had his computer shut down while he was working on something, he put into place a suspension rule where you get suspended for efven having command prompt open. Lol.

Anyhow, the exact command I do not know, we just connected to the other computers remotely and did it. Look up batch commands for
1. Enabling messenger service
2. Sending a message (net send)

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"Yes you can do this...

Right click on your my computer icon....click Manage.
When MMC pops up...right click on the "Computer Management (yourmachine)"...and choose "connect to another computer"....Type the computername, or the IP address of the machine you want to play your game on....and click OK.

Now...expand the "storage" menu..then expand "removable storage"....then expand "libraries"....right click the CD Rom shown in the tree...and choose "inject".

You have to have administrative permissions on the remote machine or it will not work.....you won't even be able to open management console on the machine unless you are an administrator...that is...your username has to be listed in the local administrators group on that machine..or you have to be a member of a group that is."

That is how we did it. If you have a login system at school, you should be able to do this method.
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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 08:49:05 am »
type "shutdown -i" in cmd for the remote shutdown it will bring a little GUI

be sure you don't have any kind of firewall blocking

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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2009, 09:11:27 am »
My friend and I were talking and he was telling me about a program me made in school and it could shut any computer down on a network and send messages to eachother ect. and I was wondering if anyone could make that because he sadly lost his files and can't remember how to make it so, please? lol
In order to use Messenger service you need to have to service enabled, which enabling the service requires admin privileges.
And in order to remotely shutdown a computer you need an admin account on the remote machine.

So, to answer you question, you can't do it/use it unless you have an admin account on the machine(s). Which at that point I would call BS on him unless he has an admin account on the computers, the red flag is especially "can't remember how to do it".
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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2009, 09:57:37 am »
My friend and I were talking and he was telling me about a program me made in school and it could shut any computer down on a network and send messages to eachother ect. and I was wondering if anyone could make that because he sadly lost his files and can't remember how to make it so, please? lol
In order to use Messenger service you need to have to service enabled, which enabling the service requires admin privileges.
And in order to remotely shutdown a computer you need an admin account on the remote machine.

So, to answer you question, you can't do it/use it unless you have an admin account on the machine(s). Which at that point I would call BS on him unless he has an admin account on the computers, the red flag is especially "can't remember how to do it".

Lol, rephrasing what I said.

But, its not true you require a admin account. as long as you have a 'account' on that computer. We were able to do it in our school because we had a account on all the computers. We, by no means, had a administrative account.
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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2009, 11:09:57 am »
Yea but he didn't do it by a batch file he did it by java or javascript I cant remember what he said but he did this at school aswell so, I was wanting to do it at mine :D the computers at my school blocked run cmd and you can't run batch files so, it would be very hard to make


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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2009, 11:15:12 am »
Make your own command prompt.
Code: C++
  1. #include <iostream>
  2. #include <string>
  3. using namespace std;
  4. string dat;
  5. int main(){
  6.      while(true){
  7.           fflush(stdin);
  8.           cin.getline(dat, '\n');
  9.           system(dat.cstr());
  10.      }
  11. }
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I have noticed that people who claim that everything is predestined, and we can do nothing to change it, look both ways before they cross the road.
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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2009, 11:24:49 am »
:D thanks now to compile that on an online compiler at school :D


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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2009, 11:26:48 am »
DevC++, or just compile it now
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I have noticed that people who claim that everything is predestined, and we can do nothing to change it, look both ways before they cross the road.
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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2009, 11:31:01 am »
:D doing that now is to much work haha but I would still like what my friends was talking about because it was a coded program


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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2009, 01:09:53 pm »
My friend and I were talking and he was telling me about a program me made in school and it could shut any computer down on a network and send messages to eachother ect. and I was wondering if anyone could make that because he sadly lost his files and can't remember how to make it so, please? lol
In order to use Messenger service you need to have to service enabled, which enabling the service requires admin privileges.
And in order to remotely shutdown a computer you need an admin account on the remote machine.

So, to answer you question, you can't do it/use it unless you have an admin account on the machine(s). Which at that point I would call BS on him unless he has an admin account on the computers, the red flag is especially "can't remember how to do it".

Lol, rephrasing what I said.

But, its not true you require a admin account. as long as you have a 'account' on that computer. We were able to do it in our school because we had a account on all the computers. We, by no means, had a administrative account.
Then you had administrator accounts. Remote shutdown will only work with accounts that have administrative access:
Firstly, in order to remotely shutdown a computer on your network, you’ll need to make sure you have Administrative access to that computer. If you’re on a home network, the best way to do this is to make sure all computers are in the same workgroup and that they all have at least one Administrator account with the same user name and password.
To send these commands to other computers across your network you need to have administrative privileges on those computers.

There MIGHT be a way to allow certain users, but I wouldn't know how. But, think about it, if any user could do a remote shutdown then all computers in a domain would be "vulnerable" and malware writers would certain take advantage of it. Because one could write malware to scan the network for computers and send remote shutdown commands to the computers which obviously would be a bad thing.
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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2009, 01:15:36 pm »
True enough. Seems stupid to place students on computer in a network with administrative access though.
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I have noticed that people who claim that everything is predestined, and we can do nothing to change it, look both ways before they cross the road.
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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2009, 01:24:21 pm »
fair enough but would you be able to send messages or files?


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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2009, 01:27:19 pm »
Sending files was disabled in XP and up.
I think vista disabled net send.
And I don't think W7 has support for either anymore.
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I have noticed that people who claim that everything is predestined, and we can do nothing to change it, look both ways before they cross the road.
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If you change the way you look at something, does that something change in any way?
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Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few. - Winston Churchill


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And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them into the earth; and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2009, 01:31:25 pm »
aww I wanted that haha


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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2009, 04:53:44 pm »
Sending files was disabled in XP and up.
I think vista disabled net send.
And I don't think W7 has support for either anymore.
Correct, I believe Microsoft disabled the Messenger service in XP SP2 and up.

The service is not in Windows 7.
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Re: comunication with a network
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2009, 06:51:21 pm »
so, if anybody knows how to do it without admin permissions share :D


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